Godliness would have this difference from us

There is abundant evidence that there is cause from human civilization with greater industrial activity to climate change, and all the destruction to the environments, and there is no evidence of conspiracy, and scriptures do not speak against it yet some passages are showing destruction to this world and coming crises to be the case. I see things worsening, and it fitting what has been shown. Being with others coming to alternatives to how we are in civilization is preferable. I put effort into having others to come to join where we grow things we need outside of cities, with communication for it, and I’m focused on the investment in this effort. We could be living as people used to be, growing their own food, building their own things, with more freedom for them without needing to be more complicated.

What is in God’s will and design is relevant for this

There is design from God shown, in the beginning of the Bible, right from God’s will for how it should be, so it was the only thing shown as what God called Very Good. It is a model to us still, which we do not have good basis to avoid. Since the fall, what was given to us was still to grow what we could from the ground where it could be good for that, this was actually never rescinded, though so many act like it was.

Seeking God’s will and finding it written and doing that is of great importance. It is simple if we see that God really likes if we will follow God’s highest will. This includes what is shown in the beginning of the Bible for us, it doesn’t include us having cities. Cities were not given to us and certainly never required of us. Ultimately God just has to tell us to get out. There are examples of a need to depart from living in a city, and God’s call for that. The model shows, our work should be with growing things for what we need, from the ground, even with some sweat, even while we age and grow old. This is God’s will, until we will be taken from here, even with hope for being called up to be with the Lord. Being in any city does not fit with that, and we are not good stewards for the world that way. God meant for us to have good stewardship in this world, that is included in godliness we are to show. There is clearly failure in the needed godliness. It is really bad how there are people for whom it is so easy to not care. Our world grows worse because all among us generally don’t.

God also provided the way for restoration. It is right for us to be working on land growing things, and that being as if there were not things to get from cities. Humanity was given opportunity to be stewards in this earth that way. So this was to be our responsibility.

Godliness involves responsibility we have in the world

God meant for us to have good stewardship in this world, that is included in godliness we are to show. There is clearly failure in the needed godliness. God also provided the way for restoration. It is right for us to be working on land growing things, and that being as if there were not things to get from cities. Humanity was given opportunity to be stewards in this earth.  So this was to be our responsibility.

We should ask, even if just ourselves, does God’s highest will matter to us? How about if God’s design matters to us? What if God’s design is God’s highest will? It says no where else but one place that God said it was Very Good, of anything. Then, should we not conform to it in the ways still possible?

Not to stay with this

What any should not be doing is counting on how soon it would be until they are taken up from here. There are things we should really be set on doing here and some things are urgent. We are not supposed to stay with any of what is destructive in this earth and we should live in ways with the responsible stewardship to this earth that was required of us. The collapse will still happen and disasters in this world then still after that.

Many miss what would really come

It is most likely that many who speak of prophecies about the things to come still have much of it wrong in many ways. They do not even yet all agree with one another. It is just how it was the first time the Messiah came. There are things to see in this world and be aware of where the things are leading to. But there are things said in the Bible and we miss much of it without really looking at what we are reading with our attention to it continuing. It is best to just stick with what is found in the Bible, and understand what is said in prophecies from what is actually shown to have been said, and trust in the leading from the Spirit of God, believers who speak with the Lord should have this. And things others do not speak of still can be seen to have connection to those. Look at what Christian leaders are not saying and find what connects that they do not say.

Isaiah 24 written hundreds of years earlier than the book of Revelation contains what corresponds to the things in it, what collapses which is shown in prophecy is not one city, or country even, or any system. It really is all cities of the earth, clearly shown, and what is shown in the book of Revelation about a collapse clearly corresponds closely to that if we look carefully at it. What we hear from churches, videos, or anything else for explaining prophecy will miss a lot of things, like this.

There will be a great final war. But there are other things that are seriously going to happen ahead of it, we would see some of those things that I also think are soon but we should not stay where we are, it would be good to be getting out away from it all.

Awareness of what God really wants of us

Believers should rethink the things they were taught without at those earlier times being as critical. Mystery Babylon is such a thing, which is not what they learned for it to represent, it is described in Revelation 18, this corresponds to what we can see of the direction in this world, and it is shown in Isaiah 24, which is very close to what is described of the collapse and fall in Revelation 18. Listen well to God’s leading rather than things we were taught, from church or other helps. Our civilization’s ways cannot even keep going on and avoid ruining too much of the world with modern civilization becoming too unstable to maintain. We should not remain with it, and would do best putting it behind us and living with great simplicity apart from it, in ways that can sustainably continue, with others we can have coming to it with us.

Our responsibility

What we as believers should do is really live responsibly, which we should do all along. There is no assurance at all when believers who are in Christ will be caught up to be with the Lord. We are told it will happen, not when, but God’s judgment in this world on the unrepentant with their greater wickedness in this world will come after that, which is not for those who are repentant being in Christ who bore everything for them. But to live responsibly which involves stewardship to this world which we are here for, to be in the image of God, who would be responsible for God’s creation, as God’s people we would not stay in Mystery Babylon, where we do not belong, we would get out from places of civilization, the cities with all who are in them cannot live with responsible stewardship to this earth, and the cities and civilization itself is godless, and grows more in being against God. We are supposed to see already that we must choose to get out, quickly, together with others of us, helping those who need help with that, and I know I do, to where we as groups of believers live on land in sustainable ways we should have with really good stewardship, and live in godly ways. Mystery Babylon will not last, its collapse will be a surprise.

Why not stay with the destructiveness to the earth

God hates the destruction to this earth that those here contribute to, and so God hates the excuse from those who say, God is going to destroy this creation anyway. It isn’t like that at all, that was misunderstood. God’s people do not belong here in Mystery Babylon, it is up to them to get out. Being in Mystery Babylon is involving the destruction to this earth. We shouldn’t be involved with it. United States is already weakening. Some things can make it go faster and sooner. With that there will be collapse of more countries. It would all be in the same direction, with more casualties.

I am willing to live with primitive conditions to have what I see is the desirable way and grow all things I can for what is wanted and needed, and building from what is useful from that, and it can involve some careful limited foraging, without too much demand for environments there. I would be more ready to do that with having any others joining to do that with me. What if we were on land together with everything growing for being enough for us? That is not at all impossible. What would you then think you are missing, that you would rather have than that?

Why should we not stay living in the city?

Apparently few other than me understand Mystery Babylon as shown is not representing what others say it does. It should not be uniquely my perspective, all should see the characteristics in the representation show all big cities of civilization, which are all godless with ambition, materialism, selfishness, exploitation, and corruption. It is all contrary to the stewardship to this world required of us.

I find so many Christians have a passive sort of faith which uses the rapture understood from the Bible to excuse them from action they should take, it has them answer that God will just take us out, and passages like, “Come out from her!” just refer to God’s action to take the believers up from this world, and that they are not going to have to see coming trouble in this world from what they still are involved in, and they do not have to answer to the required stewardship we are here for, that being in the image of God really involves. The Bible is not showing what justifies that sort of faith. We must do things ourselves, being taken out from this world is not for believers now to be away from troubles coming here anymore than earlier believers who saw more troubles than we do, it will be with coming judgment from God on the unrepentant.

Staying where we are will not be good

If we must speak of any politics, saying one political leader is a liar is much like saying any other political leaders are not liars. They all are, but their approach is generally to not lie about anything that would be found out anytime soon. Democracy is just better than a tyranny or dictatorship, which we see everything sliding toward. But it always works that way with governments, as it has through history. But with democracy there is still dictatorial law pushed on the minority in elections.

Will you all stay around each other where you are and will say you all need governing? I would have any others getting away from all that, which becomes further alienated from God. Things worsen a lot with such use of resources and loss of species and environments, and crises that would come from that. Any with me should not settle where climate change would make worse. Yet I believe the higher latitudes away from the equator we would be the harder it will be to have vegetables and fruits, and any of it would be more costly.